Episode 5

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8th Apr 2026

Love, leadership and the practice of extraordinary kindness - with Rich Waterman

In this episode of Life, Love & Legacy, I’m joined by performance coach, speaker and former Tony Robbins trainer, Rich Waterman for a conversation about presence, performance, self-trust and what it really means to grow into the next version of yourself. With a background in investment banking and more than two decades in personal and organisational development, Rich now works with founders, leaders and high achievers who want to unlock deeper, more sustainable success.

Together, Rich and I explore the life moments that shaped his path, including divorce, grief, identity shifts and a profoundly moving experience supporting a friend whose five-year-old daughter was dying from cancer. We talk about the difference between striving and being, why pain can become a teacher over time, and Rich’s powerful concept of extraordinary kindness: towards ourselves, the people around us, and the teams we lead.

This is a rich conversation about love, leadership, legacy and the quiet inner shifts that change everything.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Rich’s journey from investment banking and high-performance environments into deeper work around being and presence
  • How painful life events can reshape identity, values and purpose
  • Why presence is different from striving, and what it means to live from that space
  • Extraordinary kindness, self-trust and learning not to abandon yourself
  • Love as a serious and necessary presence in leadership, teams and business
  • The changing nature of trust, friendship and personal evolution
  • Celebration, memory and the quieter moments that shape a meaningful life
  • Legacy, ripple effects and what it means to live what you most want to leave behind

Connect with Rich:

Website. https://richwaterman.com

Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/richwaterman/

Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/rich.waterman

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Website: https://www.suerevell.com

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About the Podcast

Life, Love and Legacy
Life, Love and Legacy is a thoughtful podcast about the moments that shape us, the milestones that define us, and the meaning we make along the way. Hosted by Sue Revell, coach, celebrant and story lover, this show invites you into honest, heartfelt conversations about life, love, purpose and the legacy we are creating every day. Through reflective solo episodes and meaningful guest conversations, Sue explores the turning points, quiet realisations and ceremonies that stay with us. If you’ve ever found yourself asking what really matters and how you want to live, this podcast is for you.

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Sue Revell

HI, I'm Sue. As a coach, celebrant and podcast host, I help people to recognise and accept who they are, live bigger lives with purpose and presence, and celebrate the meaningful moments that shape their legacy.